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The term "Tuffy" came from Dale Husband as a nickname because they were not sure what the genetic make-up of the strain was. If I have the story straight, his first Oriental was one of the Tuffs that strayed into his loft and it was an aggressive bird, so he called it "Tuffy." That was when he was a kid, like 70 years ago.

He loved the bird so much he tracked down the loft it strayed from and got more of them. And that's how he got his start in Orientals. I believe it was originally from Kurdistan.

No one really knows for sure what the color factors are in this family is. I am not a genetics expert but I am of the opinion (with input from Frank Mosca) that the Tuff and Buff family are actually Smoky Embers and the Buffs are Dilute. The Reds and Yellows are recessive red and recessive yellow.

 The following pictures are in thumbnail format. Click on them to see full size pictures.

This is a Tuff old cock. Notice the heavy bronzing in the neck and in the flights. That's typical of the Tuff's

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Old Tuff cock on the nest with his hackles up

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Another Tuff old cock on the nest. Notice how much lighter this cock is

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Tuff on the wire

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Wings of a Tuff. Notice the Ember glow to the flights

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Tail of a Tuff with Ember

Typical Tuff squeaker - notice the Ember colored flights


Here's a little Tuff nestling with an unusual coloration. He seems to be in-between the Red Bar and Black Bar. I'll know more after he molts

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Notice the red in the juvenile Red Bar Tuff in the first two pictures. As this bird molts the red will give way to more Blue, typical of Ember. The three pictures to the right is of this same bird after it molted.


This hen is a Red. It changes very little with each molt



Yellow - Notice the variation in barring and color

Yellow cock

 Yellow Squeaker

A pair in the nest box - Buff cock and and Yellow hen

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Buff cock


Buff cock in the nest box

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Buff hen

 Buff Squeaker

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A darker Buff

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 Buff Squeeker

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U.S. History of the Oriental Roller
Dale Husband

The Oriental Roller pigeon origins come from the Middle East and Asian countries, namely Pakistan, Turkey, Syria, Kurdistan, which is northern Iran, Iran and other countries in the Asian part of the world.

Orientals are a very old breed and are known for their performance or rolling and their different style of body.  It is believed that this bird was used in crossing with other birds to make the present day rollers.  The Oriental Roller has stood the test of time and is still in its original form and type.  The bird does not have an oil gland, which is one of its characteristics.  The Oriental carries its wings below its tail and it has more than the normal twelve tail feathers.  An average of fourteen to sixteen is common.

The old writing about Orientals gives the colors as black, dun, almonds (various combinations of almonds.)  Some show mostly black and white, dun and white, and the standard almond background color.  No doubt there were many other colors, but these are mentioned most.  Now, we have just about every color in Orientals that there are in pigeons.

In the past, the Oriental Roller had lemon or yellow eyes as well as pearl eyes, but over the years the lemon eye was bred out.  Now, it is rare to see a bird with lemon eyes.  Whites have dark or bull eyes, but some breeders are trying to breed them with pearl eyes so there are a few of them around now.

The Oriental does not fly in a kit as well as does the Birmingham Roller.  They prefer to be more individuals and do their own thing in the air.  Smaller kits of ten to fifteen birds do much better than larger ones.

The Oriental Roller was imported to the United States in 1927 to the Bronx Zoo.  There may have been earlier importations, but this one is documented.

From this time on, the Oriental Roller has spread all over the U.S.  In the early 1930's, they were shipped to Salt Lake City, Utah from New York by J. Leroy Smith to a Mr. Graham who had a great variety in colors and bar patterns.

Mr. Graham sold his birds to Paul Buttle who kept them until 1938 or 1939 when I was able to acquire his entire loft. There were yellows and reds, silver bars, buff bars and blue bars, bronze and some colors that are not named.  I think it was about 1940 that Bob Evens sent me two pair of black Oriental Rollers that he had bred and flown.  Bob disposed of his Orientals when he started raising Pensom Rollers.

I got started in Oriental Rollers in 1936.  A small blue hen strayed in with my father's Racing Homers.  I liked what I saw but didn't know what kind of pigeon it was so I went to my friend, Ray Gilbert, to find out and he told me it was an Oriental Roller.   From then on, I was going all over the valley looking for any I could acquire.  Friends would tell me where I could find some, then I would buy or trade for the Orientals.

From that time on, the Oriental Roller has made its mark in Salt Lake City, gaining from a few breeders in the 1930's to a great many now.

Some of the people who had Orientals in the 1930's and 1940's are: Paul Buttle, Melvin Colt, Jake Denter, Stever Peterson, Paul Bradford, John Fife, Wayne Myers, Norm Drecksel, Billy Woodruff, Professor Reed, Dave Camomile, and Dale Husband.

Dale Husband
1923 ~ 2011
WASHINGTON, UTAH - Dale LeRoy Husband, 88, died on Oct 1, 2011 due to complications of age. He was born in Salt Lake City, Utah, July 2 1923, to Russell Starr Husband and Geneva Marie Hedelius.
After an adventurous youth, he graduated from West High School and started college before enlisting in the Navy in Feb 1944. During this time he met Virginia Vance and they were married July 1, 1944 in Gulfport, Mississippi where he was stationed. They were blessed with four daughters and a son, Sally Jo, Becky Sue, Pamalee, Jill, and David Dale.
During World War II he served as a Motor Machinist's Mate aboard the USS LSM 330 and the USS Eppins Forest during the Pacific Conflict and received an honorable discharge in Nov 1946. After returning home he graduated with a BS in Botany from the University of Utah in 1949. He retired from the US Postal Service in 1982 after 30+ years of service.
Dale was an incredible carpenter and handyman, avid outdoorsman, hunter, and fisherman. He was legendary in the pigeon world, breeding, competing, judging, and winning many awards. He was one of the first inductees to the Pigeon Fanciers Hall of Fame. He was a co founder of the Utah Oriental Roller Association with other long time friends. His love of flying was extended to crafting and piloting radio controlled model airplanes.



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